Comments on: Why we need librarians http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/ About David Weinberger's book (May, 2007) and how we're pulling ourselves together now that we've blown ourselves to bits Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:37:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Рок Библиотека http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-194816 Рок Библиотека Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:04:33 +0000 http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/#comment-194816 the best! the best!

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]]> By: Real Estate Guy http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-43659 Real Estate Guy Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:52:47 +0000 http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/#comment-43659 Books have already been supplanted as the "locus of knowledge" by the internet. Blogs have become a major resource for timely knowledge, most professional journals are now online, google is scanning every book in the Library of Congress and the top university libraries in the world. Even the top search engines now have thousands of human reviewers on staff and as volunteers, technology now consists of both automated and human review processes as the two converge. Soon the technology for search and cataloging will be better than any flesh and bone librarian. What will Mann say then? We are just about there. Books have already been supplanted as the “locus of knowledge” by the internet. Blogs have become a major resource for timely knowledge, most professional journals are now online, google is scanning every book in the Library of Congress and the top university libraries in the world. Even the top search engines now have thousands of human reviewers on staff and as volunteers, technology now consists of both automated and human review processes as the two converge. Soon the technology for search and cataloging will be better than any flesh and bone librarian. What will Mann say then? We are just about there.

]]> By: Web hosting Guy http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-25579 Web hosting Guy Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:26:49 +0000 http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/#comment-25579 Think The digital medium, particularly the Internet, offers new possibilities for scholars and library professionals. I think the press offer more new possiblilites for schollars. Think The digital medium, particularly the Internet, offers new possibilities for scholars and library professionals.

I think the press offer more new possiblilites for schollars.

]]> By: ronald http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-24729 ronald Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:31:34 +0000 http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/#comment-24729 I Think The digital medium, particularly the Internet, offers new possibilities for scholars and library professionals :) I Think The digital medium, particularly the Internet, offers new possibilities for scholars and library professionals :)

]]> By: Meinbrodt http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-17214 Meinbrodt Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:49:46 +0000 http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/#comment-17214 In my opinion Mann's paper is less about the future of books or his general opinion about supporters of the "digital library idea" - although his opinions on this issues are questionable. He is mainly focusing on the issue of how to order huge collections of informations, irrespective their physical form, adequately so that scholars or all user who don't need something quickly are going to get the best or appropriate results of their retrival. And even if "more and more scholars move onto the Web and do their thinking in public, in conversation with other scholars" create for example a wiki-based standart work of a new emerging scientific field one question is still to be raised. What is the best way finding it? Trim it to a precoordinate classication scheme or assigning tags or values of different facets postcoordinatly? According to Mann the answer should be clear. :-) P.S. sorry for my English ... In my opinion Mann’s paper is less about the future of books or his general opinion about supporters of the “digital library idea” – although his opinions on this issues are questionable.

He is mainly focusing on the issue of how to order huge collections of informations, irrespective their physical form, adequately so that scholars or all user who don’t need something quickly are going to get the best or appropriate results of their retrival.

And even if “more and more scholars move onto the Web and do their thinking in public, in conversation with other scholars” create for example a wiki-based standart work of a new emerging scientific field one question is still to be raised.

What is the best way finding it? Trim it to a precoordinate classication scheme or assigning tags or values of different facets postcoordinatly?

According to Mann the answer should be clear. :-)

P.S. sorry for my English …

]]> By: Zotero testing « Documenting sources http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-15264 Zotero testing « Documenting sources Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:33:46 +0000 http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/#comment-15264 [...] on a link chain from If:book blog about Thomas Mann’s Pelopponesian War query through that Everything is Miscellaneous fellow, into the WP of one the imaginary thousands of librarian-minded gentlemen who quote Goethe [...] [...] on a link chain from If:book blog about Thomas Mann’s Pelopponesian War query through that Everything is Miscellaneous fellow, into the WP of one the imaginary thousands of librarian-minded gentlemen who quote Goethe [...]

]]> By: arkham http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-13569 arkham Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:06:18 +0000 http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/#comment-13569 I had a few thoughts reading Mann, and disagree to a degree with his ideas on books. A quote from his article: "Digitizing a full book makes it virtually unreadable as a whole." He makes other similar statements in the article, and I have to disagree. While I don't think that paper-based books are in imminent danger of being supplanted, the idea that one can't read a digitized book is absurd. I myself have read about 4 novels and am working on a 3rd in my PDA. Each of these has been digitized, then I downloaded them into a portable format, and...I'm perfectly happy with reading digitized books. I expect that will become more true for more people in the future...but Mann seems to think it's impossible. I also have issues with his painting "digital library theorists" with a broad brush, claiming that the majority of them absolutely are against any kind of controlled vocabulary or professional input of retrieval methods. I believe this is a gross generalization and that many "digital library theorists", particularly those with a library background do consider that user keyword tagging needs supplementation with professionally created metadata. I had a few thoughts reading Mann, and disagree to a degree with his ideas on books. A quote from his article: “Digitizing a full book makes it virtually unreadable as a whole.” He makes other similar statements in the article, and I have to disagree. While I don’t think that paper-based books are in imminent danger of being supplanted, the idea that one can’t read a digitized book is absurd. I myself have read about 4 novels and am working on a 3rd in my PDA. Each of these has been digitized, then I downloaded them into a portable format, and…I’m perfectly happy with reading digitized books. I expect that will become more true for more people in the future…but Mann seems to think it’s impossible.

I also have issues with his painting “digital library theorists” with a broad brush, claiming that the majority of them absolutely are against any kind of controlled vocabulary or professional input of retrieval methods. I believe this is a gross generalization and that many “digital library theorists”, particularly those with a library background do consider that user keyword tagging needs supplementation with professionally created metadata.

]]> By: Some things read this week, 24 - 30 June 2007 http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-13198 Some things read this week, 24 - 30 June 2007 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:53:44 +0000 http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/06/25/why-we-need-librarians/#comment-13198 [...] Mann, Thomas. “The Peloponnesian War and the Future of Reference, Cataloging, and Scholarship in Research Libraries.” [pdf here] I think is Mann’s most balanced piece (lately) so far. It has been getting a lot of play including a nice write-up by David Weinberger. [...] [...] Mann, Thomas. “The Peloponnesian War and the Future of Reference, Cataloging, and Scholarship in Research Libraries.” [pdf here] I think is Mann’s most balanced piece (lately) so far. It has been getting a lot of play including a nice write-up by David Weinberger. [...]

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