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	<title>Comments on: Tagmashes from LibraryThing</title>
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	<description>About David Weinberger's book (May, 2007) and how we're pulling ourselves together now that we've blown ourselves to bits</description>
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		<title>By: Phil Wolff</title>
		<link>http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/2007/07/25/tagmashes-from-librarything/comment-page-1/#comment-21229</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Wolff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folksongomy: Where we sing what a song is about, each of us singing simultaneously our own spontaneous description of the song, instead of singing a song&#039;s lyrics.</description>
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		<title>By: Tagmash on LibraryThing - Baby Steps Toward More User-Friendly Subject Headings? &#171; informationatrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tagmash on LibraryThing - Baby Steps Toward More User-Friendly Subject Headings? &#171; informationatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Library 2.0&#160;  LibraryThing has just introduced a feature called &#8220;tagmash&#8221; that is, as David Weinberger puts it, &#8220;creating subject headings from the bottom [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Library 2.0&nbsp;  LibraryThing has just introduced a feature called &#8220;tagmash&#8221; that is, as David Weinberger puts it, &#8220;creating subject headings from the bottom [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mxt</title>
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		<dc:creator>mxt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of 2007.07.26 Google only finds one other page with the search &quot;traditional folksonomy&quot;, see http://www.openparenthesis.org/2007/03/22/sxsw-day-two-people-powered/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of 2007.07.26 Google only finds one other page with the search &#8220;traditional folksonomy&#8221;, see <a href="http://www.openparenthesis.org/2007/03/22/sxsw-day-two-people-powered/" rel="nofollow">http://www.openparenthesis.org/2007/03/22/sxsw-day-two-people-powered/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

You might find this interesting.  One point that goes back to your &quot;Why we need librarians&quot; post:

I brought up with Tim the issue of whether order mattered with tagmashing. 

For example, 

History -- Philosophy 

and 

Philosophy -- History 

are two different things. 

He replied:  

Yes. That&#039;s a good, simple example of when [terms matter a lot]. Order does NOT matter on LT. It&#039;s key, however, not to think of tagmash as a truly separate scheme. It&#039;s based on regular tags. So, in this case, you have to ask yourself &quot;why would someone tag something &#039;history&#039; and why &#039;philosophy&#039;?

In fact, &quot;philosophy, history&quot; produces three mostly distinct groupings:

*History of Philosophy (A history of western philosophy by Bertrand Russell)
*Philosophy of History (What is history? by Edward Hallett Carr)
*&quot;Old&quot; philosophy, or philosophy that also sheds light on history (The Republic of Plato by Plato)

It&#039;s a good example of how tagmash can perpetuate (or even increase) ambiguity, rather than driving it out. (end quote from Tim)

Just an interesting point a librarian would emphasize.  :)

~Nate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>You might find this interesting.  One point that goes back to your &#8220;Why we need librarians&#8221; post:</p>
<p>I brought up with Tim the issue of whether order mattered with tagmashing. </p>
<p>For example, </p>
<p>History &#8212; Philosophy </p>
<p>and </p>
<p>Philosophy &#8212; History </p>
<p>are two different things. </p>
<p>He replied:  </p>
<p>Yes. That&#8217;s a good, simple example of when [terms matter a lot]. Order does NOT matter on LT. It&#8217;s key, however, not to think of tagmash as a truly separate scheme. It&#8217;s based on regular tags. So, in this case, you have to ask yourself &#8220;why would someone tag something &#8216;history&#8217; and why &#8216;philosophy&#8217;?</p>
<p>In fact, &#8220;philosophy, history&#8221; produces three mostly distinct groupings:</p>
<p>*History of Philosophy (A history of western philosophy by Bertrand Russell)<br />
*Philosophy of History (What is history? by Edward Hallett Carr)<br />
*&#8221;Old&#8221; philosophy, or philosophy that also sheds light on history (The Republic of Plato by Plato)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good example of how tagmash can perpetuate (or even increase) ambiguity, rather than driving it out. (end quote from Tim)</p>
<p>Just an interesting point a librarian would emphasize.  :)</p>
<p>~Nate</p>
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